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Deregulation and lack of Media attention cause "bailout"

Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:53 AM EDT
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By Steve-543647
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It wasn't "if" this global economic implosion would happen the only question was WHEN.

The U.S. Congress assisted FHA/HUD and the Office of Thrift Supervision to eliminate the honest appraisers in the 1980's and '90's allowing for a 20 year artificial real estate market to be used as collateral for ALL these worthless mortgages (toxic assests) that has bankrupted the largest banks in the world.

It's quite simple really, if all these mortgages  that have been "packaged" and sold all over the world and used to support the artificial economic growth for the past 20 years, were accurately evaluated, this could not have happen.

No matter how risky the home owners ability to pay for his/her mortgage, IF the real estate market was allowed to grow at it's own pace and not manipulated by those who profit from an overly inflated market then there can not be any loss. NONE, for the mortgage would have adequate collateral and would be able to be resold quickly , therefore, there would be, could be NO loss.

Following is a letter from Con. Doug Barnard Jr. to a real estate appraisal magazine relating his December 1985 investigation on appraiser fraud in the early 1980's and reasons for it.

House of Representatives
COMMERCE. CONSUMER. AND MONETARY AFFAIRS SUBCOMMITTEE
OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING, ROOM B-377 WASHINGTON, DC 20615
August 3, 1987

This is in response to your letter of July 28 enclosing a copy of the July/August 1987 issue of Residential Valuation magazine and its editorial addressed to me entitled, "You're Barking Up the Wrong Tree". You may use this response as a reply to your editorial.

Your editorial agrees with the finding expressed in my Subcommittee's report on appraisal abuses that "faulty and fraudulent real estate appraisals have become an increasingly serious national problem whose effects are widespread, pervasive and costly."

Unfortunately, the editorial distorts and thereby misstates the report's conclusions as to why real estate appraisers too often engage in shoddy appraisals.

Your editorial mistakenly attributes to our report the conclusion that abusive appraisals are due to appraisers who "are unqualified and unlicensed". We reached no such conclusion.

To the contrary, our report found that highly qualified appraisers are as often responsible for shoddy appraisals as those with less training; and that it is extreme pressures on appraisers from real estate lenders and borrowers that most often cause bad appraisals.

Even a superficial reading of the report would have found the following language:

"Responsibility for [the appraisal] problem rests with those who...base lending and related mortgage insurance/investment decisions on appraisals they know or should have known were improper or inaccurate. Equally culpable are the Federal agencies that regulate or oversee lending and mortgage insurance/investment activities and programs." (Report, p. 4.)

"Alarming numbers of lending institution officials regard appraisals as an obstacle to be overcome or a rubberstamp necessary in order to make a real estate loan under consideration. Loan officers are particularly suspect in this regard, since they are typically under explicit pressure to book as many loans as possible."

"Many lending institution officers, directors, and managers are demonstrably more interested in up-front fees and other tangible benefits accruing from a completed loan transaction, than they are with being assured that their institution's risk exposure is minimized by an accurate assessment of the actual market value of the loan's underlying collateral."

"Appraiser ineptitude, negligence, and misconduct are widespread. Of greatest concern is "client advocacy appraising, wherein large numbers of appraisers willingly agree, or otherwise succumb, to pressure brought to bear by lenders, borrowers, and others involved in the loan origination and underwriting process." (Report, p. 8.)

While appraiser ineptitude is occasionally responsible for inadequate appraisals, most abusive practices result from explicit or implicit threats against appraisers, by real estate lenders and borrowers, that their services will be discontinued if they fail to provide the "right" numbers.

Doug Barnard, Jr. Chairman

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This was 1985, just a few years into the deregulation of the banks and S/L's. In a HUD bulletin (below) you will see how we taxpayers were already taking a hefty hit. I want you to also notice in the first sentence the term, HUD "staff" appraisers.

At the same time Doug Barnard Jr. was doing his investigation into fraudulent appraisals costing taxpayers billions, FHA /HUD was enacting the Direct Endorsement program whereas lenders could now hire "in-house staff" appraisers.

In essence, Congress help eliminate the honest appraisers, that refused to be an "obstacle to be overcome" and deregulated the federally insured banking industry in the 1980's at the bequest of the Realtor and mortgage lenders PAC's.

Freddie and Fannie helped to eliminate the honest appraisers so to artificially inflate the home price for higher profit, The Office of Thrift Supervision knew it, FHA/HUD had a HUGE hand in it. Mortgage Guaranty Insurance Corp. knew it.

In the late 1980's the House Government Operation Committee said: "If sound valuation practices are not followed, HUD"S risks are increased." Yet they continued deregulating. Why? Because instead of being punished, everyone gets bonuses.

If you will go to http://appraiserspetition.com/ and read about the pressures that are still, to this day, applied to the appraisers, simply ask, how can a problem that was blamed for the LAST taxpayer bailout of the the banking industry, STILL be a problem today? Your Congress and the MEDIA.

Forgive my simplistic view, but again, if a mortgage on a piece of real estate has adequate collateral there would be very little to no loss to all, so people you must ask, how in the world did the same problem that caused the "largest taxpayer bailout in history", be the major reason for the largest "global" economic implosion in history? Why did Congress help to eliminate the honest appraisers that refused to succumb to the pressures to hit the "right numbers" in the 1980's after the last bailout? Without these over-valued "toxic assets" the rest of the game(s) were not possible.

This is a letter I finally received when trying to get help as an appraiser in Texas after being the casualty of their deregulation when an employee refuses (to commit federal banking fraud by fraudulently arriving at the "right" numbers) an assignment by the employer..

HENRY B GONZALEZ, TEXAS. CHAIRMAN
CHARLES E SCHUMER. NEW YORK

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
OF THE COMMITTEE ON BANKING, FINANCE AND URBAN AFFAIRS
ONE HUNDRED THIRD CONGRESS B303 RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON, DC 20515-6052
BERNARD SANDERS. VERMONT (202) 225-7054

May 18, 1994

Mr. S G
Dallas, Texas 75248

Dear Mr. G:

I am writing in response to the recent letter regarding your unfortunate experiences as an appraiser in the past few years. First of all, I commend your meritorious honesty as a certified appraiser in the state of Texas. I sympathize with you and find it a shame that the fiduciary relationship you attempted to maintain with your employers went unnoticed and unrewarded.

Unfortunately, the Congress cannot legislate honesty throughout the banking and appraisal industry. I am confident that there are many respectable banks and mortgage companies who are in great need of an appraiser with your integrity. Rest assured that I always fight to uphold the FHA guidelines and I will continue to maintain the most effective way to protect borrowers and deter unfair lending practices.

Thank you for contacting me personally on this matter.

With every best wish I remain,
Henry B. Gonzalez,

Chairman

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Of course they couldn't regulate HONESTY in the industry, the PAC's and lobbyist's were paying them to de-regulate it. Again, how can something that was declared; "a serious national problem costing taxpayers billions..." by a Congressional subcommittee in 1987 still be a problem TODAY?

How does one:

"maintain the most effective way to protect borrowers and deter unfair lending practices. "

If one cannot regulate HONESTY in the banking and appraisal industries?

Why, when a Congressional subcommittee, chaired by Con. Doug Barnard, Jr, said:

"...that it is extreme pressures on appraisers from real estate lenders and borrowers that MOST often cause bad appraisals."

"Alarming numbers of lending institution officials regard appraisals as an obstacle to be overcome or a rubberstamp..."

"While appraiser ineptitude is occasionally responsible for inadequate appraisals, MOST abusive practices result from explicit or implicit threats against appraisers, by real estate lenders and borrowers, that their services will be discontinued if they fail to provide the "right" numbers."

did FHA/HUD enact the direct endorsement program allowing lenders to hire in-house staff appraisers, in 1985?

They just took an independent entity and made him an employee of someone who viewed him as an "obstacle to be overcome"

If the lenders had such a strong adverse effect on appraisers when they were independent contractors, what are they going to do now that the CONGRESS made them salaried employee's? How can they claim; "Of greatest concern is "client advocacy appraising and they then make the appraiser a salaried employee of the lenders?

Again go to http://appraiserspetition.com/ HOW is this STILL a problem TODAY.

YOUR Congress and a media owned by big business.

If all mortgaged home loans had ADEQUATE collateral and not backed by an artificial market this wouldn't / COULDN'T happen, That's the whole point in having an independent appraisal. To make sure the bank, the borrower, the secondary markets and the TAXPAYER is protected from unnecessary losses.

IF IT IS FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED AND INSURED IT SHOULD BE FEDERALLY REGULATED.

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U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
Office of Inspector General

June 1987 P-87-4
Program Integrity Bulletin
Fee Appraisers
Purpose

This Bulletin is designed to make HUD staff and fee appraisers aware of appraiser involvement in fraudulent schemes and of the consequences or penalties associated with these schemes. This Bulletin also contains common appraisal deficiencies which have been identified by HUD review appraisers and Office of Inspector General (OIG) staff as well as a discussion of how they may be avoided.

Over the past several years, there has been nationwide publicity and concern that faulty and fraudulent appraisals have caused serious problems in the lending industry, Federal loan guarantee programs, and the secondary mortgage market. If sound valuation practices are not followed, HUD's risks are increased.
I
n December 1985, witnesses at a congressional subcommittee hearing cited major faults in the appraisal industry. In a recent report issued after a year of investi-gation following the hearing, the House Government Operations Committee said faulty and fraudulent real estate appraisals are a "serious national problem" that has cost taxpayers, lenders, and insurers billions of dollars.

The subcommittee investigation found that "at least" 10 to 15 percent of the $1.3 billion in losses suffered by private mortgage insurance companies in 1984 and 1985 could be attributed to inaccu-rate and fraudulent appraisals, as could from 10 to 40 percent of the Veterans Administration's $420 million in losses from its loan guaranty fund in Fiscal Year 1985. Dishonest or faulty appraisals were a factor in the $200 million loss to the Federal Housing Administration's (FHA) mortgage insurance program during the same period, according to the report.
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$600M in losses to FHA / HUD in one year due to faulty and fraudulant appraisals, due to "implicit and explicit threats put upon appraiers to hit the "right" numbers." by "lenders and borrowers who view appraisals as an "obstacle to be overcome."
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Yet FHA /HUD enacted the "direct endorsement program" allowing the lenders to hire in-house staff appraisers.
They just took independant appraisers and MADE them salaried employees of people who view them as an "obstacle to be overcome."
Then when we appraisers complain for being "fired" for refusing to commit federal banking fraud so we can prevent the very collapse of the "global economy" as it has, we are told to simply move on.
And yet, still today at appraiserspetition.com is the very problem that caused the bailout in the early 1990's still the problem today.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:49 AM EDT
Steve-543647

In regards as to if our representatives were aware of and thinking about the knowingly artificially inflated real estate values, enclosed is a letter from Senator Evan Bayh:

United States Senate

WASHINGTON, DC 20510-1404

 November 19, 2002

Mr. S G  

Dear Mr. G:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the regulation of professional and real estate appraisers. I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this important issue.

As you know, the current regulatory structure for the licensing and certification of appraisers involves numerous boards and agencies at both the state and federal level. I understand your concern that the complexity of the system leaves it vulnerable to abuses and I appreciate your suggestions for improvement.

On October 16, 2001, The House of Representatives passed H.R. 1408, the Financial Services Antifraud Network Act of 200 1 . This bill, which was meant to encourage communication between state and federal regulators, included an amendment to include the Appraisal Subcommittee (ASC) to become a part of a network of information sharing to facilitate greater communication among investigative bodies. In doing so, this bill would require the ASC to be a liaison to the network of financial regulators to share information available through its National Registry of real estate appraisers. H.R. 1408 has now been referred to the Senate Banking Committee, where no further action has been taken.

As a member of the Senate Banking Committee, I will be following this issue closely in the coming months. Rest assured, I will keep your concerns in mind during any future consideration of this important issue.

Thank you again for sharing your suggestions for improving the regulation of appraisers. I value your input and hope you will continue to keep me informed of the issues important to you.

Evan Bayh

United States Senator

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How can real estate values  drop SO much SO quickly if they were not artificially inflated?

 

 

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:32 PM EST
Steve-543647

Letter from Senator Richard Shelby on the very same reagrds:

April 29, 2004

Mr. S G

Dear Mr. G:

Thank you for contacting me regarding your concerns about the real estate appraisal industry. As Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, I share your interest in this very important matter.

On March 24, 2004, the Subcommittee on Housing and Transportation held a hearing to discuss current real estate appraisal practices and the effectiveness of its regulatory bodies with respect to Title XI. The General Accounting Office (GAO) testified on the findings from its May 2003 report.

The GAO report addressed three broad areas including, the responsibility of each regulatory entity in the oversight structure established by Title XI, potential impediments to carrying out those responsibilities, and the regulators' concerns about the effectiveness of the existing regulatory structure. Subsequent recommendations were made that the Appraisal Subcommittee, which is responsible for monitoring the implementation of Title XI by all parties, has reported that it is acting on. As the Banking Committee allows time for such implementations to take hold, I intend to monitor their consequences to ensure that the current legislation functions as it is intended.

Thank you again for your correspondence. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,

Richard Shelby

United States Senator

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Amazing, how with all of this oversight and consideration we have a crumbling global economy mainly because it is based upon artifically inflated American real estate.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:40 PM EST
Steve-543647

One more:

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY

WASHINGTON, DC 20410-0001

March 25, 1999

Mr. S G

Real Estate Appraiser 

Dear Mr. Gilmore:

President Clinton received your letter of February 22, 1999, and has asked the Department of Housing and Urban Development to respond to you because it administers most Federal housing programs. In order to expedite the response, your inquiry has been assigned to the Office of Housing and given the number WF-260588 for tracking purposes.

If you do not receive a response within 14 business days from the date of this letter, please contact Gloria Mainhart at (202) 708-3475 to obtain the status of your correspondence.

Again, thank you for your interest in the Department.

Sincerely,

Barbara J. Duffitt

Acting Director Executive Secretariat

-----------------------------------------

Never heard a word back from them, even when I called about my tracking #.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:46 PM EST
Steve-543647

Appraisers Petition

Concerned Real Estate Appraisers from across America
Submit the attached petition (Which was posted on ):

To: Mr. Ben Henson - Executive Director
      Appraisal Subcommittee (ASC)
      Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council
      email:

cc: Other state or federal agencies with authority in the following matter

"The ASC's mission is to ensure that real estate appraisers, who perform appraisals in real estate transactions that could expose the United States government to financial loss, are sufficiently trained and tested to assure competency and independent judgment according to uniform high professional standards and ethics." From the ASC website.

The concern of this petition has to do with our "independent judgment" in performing real estate appraisals. We, the undersigned, represent a large number of licensed and certified real estate appraisers in the United States, who seek your assistance in solving a problem facing us on a daily basis. Lenders (meaning any and all of the following: banks, savings and loans, mortgage brokers, credit unions and loan officers in general; not to mention real estate agents) have individuals within their ranks, who, as a normal course of business, apply pressure on appraisers to hit or exceed a predetermined value.

This pressure comes in many forms and includes the following:

  • the withholding of business if we refuse to inflate values,
  • the withholding of business if we refuse to guarantee a predetermined value,
  • the withholding of business if we refuse to ignore deficiencies in the property,
  • refusing to pay for an appraisal that does not give them what they want,
  • black listing honest appraisers in order to use "rubber stamp" appraisers, etc.

We request that action be taken to hold the lenders responsible for this type of violation and provide for a penalty on any person or business who engages in the practice of pressuring appraisers to do dishonest appraisals that do not provide for independent judgment. We believe that this practice has adverse effects on our local and national economies and that the potential for great financial loss exists. We also believe that many individuals have been adversely affected by the purchase of homes which have been over-valued.

We thank you for your cooperation and assistance.

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How? How can this stll be a problem with ALL that is/ was known and has happen? How could this very same problem be one of the major factors in  the "largest taxpayer bailout in history" of the banks in 1990 's, yet here we are, the very same problem the very same bailout only it went from $500+ Billion to over $3 TRILLION

oh and another $1.5 Trillion is expected to hit in the next couple years.

If the homes were not artificially inflated there could not be any lose.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:10 PM EST
truthlover

And, yes, I know of these practices second-hand (at moments a very close second-hand). Has anything come of this letter?

  • 4 votes
#5.1 - Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:06 PM EST
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truthlover

Almost too much, Steve, for a reader to read before a discussion has begun. But thanks.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:05 PM EST
Steve-543647

I knew not how to appropriately present this info and it appeared no one cared or was reading it so I just kept putting the info out here for all to see. The main story needs to be rewritten, for I am "to close" to this subject to present it adequately, plus I'm not the brightest bulb in the bunch. I was hoping to supply everyone with a story with enough facts so they could write to their senators and congress persons and be able to attach the story and simply ask, how could you all knowingly allow this to happen "again" and on such a devastating level.

Thanks t/l

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:14 AM EST
KGMO

Steve, Have you shown this to a major media outlet? You were forced out of your profession for giving honest valuations instead of inflated ones? If this sort of thing was going on, and it doesn't really surprise me that it was, why didn't somebody write about it in their newspaper? That's what I can't figure out. Why didn't some enterprising young financial reporter figure this out and say the emperor has no clothes, before the house of cards came crashing down?

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:57 PM EDT
Steve-543647

KG

That's what has had me SO dumbfounded for these last 20 years. I have sent this to every news media source I could in the last 20 years and still to this day they ignore this subject, the one underlying simple act that would of prevented this entire fiasco now, for there wouldn't be ANY over valued mortgage backed securities for them to "play" with.

KG have you soaked in the statement by Rep. H. B. Gonzalez? "Unfortunately, the Congress cannot regulate honesty in the banking and appraisal industries."

When the appraisers would inform / complain about being fired for refusing to commit federal banking fraud by over valuing the appraisals and attempting to prevent exactly what has happen, that is their answer. We cannot regulate HONESTY in the banking industry?

Your government not only knew it was going on they created it. How can this still be a problem today after having a $500 B bailout just 20 years ago?

http://appraiserspetition.com/

this is the link to the petition I referenced earlier, how can the exact same problems that caused the bailout in the 1980's still be a problem today and be the cause for this massive economic catastrophe just 20 years later?

Thanks KG

  • 3 votes
Reply#9 - Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:04 AM EDT
KGMO

This is the missing link. This is what everyones asking now. "Why didn't someone see this coming?"

  • 4 votes
Reply#10 - Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:32 AM EDT
Steve-543647

The sad fact is everyone of them saw it.

I spoke face to face with Con, Baron Hill of Indiana (8 years ago) and his aide said; "It is virtually impossible to re-invent the wheel." When I went over all of this with them. Their meaning is that we are willing and it is possible to deregulate but it is impossible to RE regulate, even when it's in the best interest of the entire country.

They try to minimize this issue, however, without these individual mortgages there is NO fuel for their fire. It's what fueled the last fraudulent banking bailout and they just simply broadened and expanded their greedy fraudulent enterprises to include the entire global economy.

What drove the housing market to where the median home price went from $80K to $230K when the median American salary has been vertually stagnet during the same time?

http://efinancedirectory.com/articles/This_is_Why_I_Rent%3A_Median_Incomes_Do_Not_Support_Median_Home_Prices.html

It's been a fabricated market in order to fuel larger fraudulent transactions.

Something as simple as allowing real esate appraisers to perform accurate evaluations through out the years would of prevented every bit of this, for there would of been no fuel for the fire.

Yet the media refuses to report on any of it.

A Congressional sub-committee reports lenders view appraisers as an "obstacle to be overcome" and it is extereme pressure on appraisers by lenders that cause most fraudulent appraisals in 1987, which led to the 1980's failures yet as per the appraisers petition it is STILL a problem today. HOW?

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:27 AM EDT
Steve-543647

On March 17 I e-mailed this article to John.Schoen@msnbc.com and this was his reply.

I’m sorry, but I just can’t buy this idea that “the media” – whatever the hell that is – “refuses to tell the real and true story” about anything.

The reporting is there. People ignore stores all the time. Millions of people face genocide in Darfur every day. Why are more people “outraged” about a handful of insurance executives’ bonuses?

Thanks for your note

Rgds

jws

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This article has nothing to do with insurance.

The story about how your Congress eliminated the honest appraisers in the 1980's and early 1990's has NEVER been told, for if it had this "over valued mortgage backed securities" economic implosion more than likely would of never happen.

As I said, the media will not tell this story.

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    Steve-543647

    http://efinancedirectory.com/articles/Inflated_Appraisals_May_Become_a_Crime_of_the_Past.html

    April, 2008

    "Although there are many honest appraisers out there, new data from the FBI indicates there may be just as many who inflated appraisals to devastating effect after being pressured by mortgage brokers and others in the industry.

    Last year, 90 percent of appraisers felt pressure to inflate home values, according to a nationwide survey of appraisers conducted by October Research Inc. Most of the pressure came from mortgage brokers and real estate agents--two groups who depend on commissions to make a living."

    1985 Congressional Sub-committee hearing to find cause of SO many S/L's going under. (from article above)

    "Alarming numbers of lending institution officials regard appraisals as an obstacle to be overcome"

    "most abusive practices result from explicit or implicit threats against appraisers, by real estate lenders and borrowers, that their services will be discontinued if they fail to provide the "right" numbers."

    http://efinancedirectory.com/articles/This_is_Why_I_Rent%3A_Median_Incomes_Do_Not_Support_Median_Home_Prices.html

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/56570-what-should-today-s-median-housing-price-be

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